Church is Changing: Episode 72 – Soul Revival Retreat

What if the unraveling we see in the institutional church isn’t a problem to fix — but a sacred invitation to a new way of being?

In this deeply honest and hopeful episode, host Beth Estock is joined by three extraordinary women — Elaine Heath, Angie Wolle, and Rebecca Przybylski — for a soulful conversation about the shifting landscape of Christian leadership and the emergence of the Divine Feminine in this time of disintegration, grief, and profound transformation.

Together, we explore:

• The archetypal journey from static masculine to dynamic feminine energy — and why it matters now.
• The toll of institutional collapse on our bodies, spirits, and leadership.
• A new imagination for spiritual leadership rooted in receptivity, wholeness, and embodied wisdom.

We also share about the upcoming Soul Revival Retreat (August 25–29, 2025) — a healing gathering for soulful women leaders — and the courageous hope it’s stirring in us for what is yet to come.

Meet the Guests

Dr. Elaine Heath is a former dean of Duke Divinity School and the co-founder of Spring Forest, a new monastic community in North Carolina. A pastor, professor, and mystic, she has authored over a dozen books on contemplative life, evangelism, and healing spirituality.

Rev. Angie Wolle is a spiritual director, coach, and organizational consultant with a background in Fortune 500 companies and healthcare systems. An ordained United Methodist pastor, Angie weaves together energy healing and contemplative leadership in her work with faith-based leaders.

Rebecca Przybylski is an Integral Coach, Enneagram teacher, and MDiv-trained leader currently pursuing her Master’s in Clinical Counseling. Her work is grounded in the Contemplative Christian lineage and a passion for holistic wellness in spiritual leadership.

Upcoming Soul Revival Retreat

August 25–29, 2025
Cascade foothills near Portland, Oregon

A five-day retreat for soulful women leaders seeking rest, renewal, and reconnection in a sacred container of soul care and shared wisdom. Click here for more information.

We bring you stories of hope and resilience from leaders around the world who are engaging the gospel message in new ways. We interview thought leaders who bring wisdom about the changing cultural landscape and its implications for faith formation. If you are a church leader looking for practical ideas and new ways of approaching church in the 21st century, this podcast is for you.

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About the Hosts:

Beth Estock

After serving as a United Methodist pastor in a variety of settings in Georgia and Oregon, and then as Director of New Faith Community Development in the Oregon and Idaho conferences of The United Methodist Church, Beth Estock wanted to help big-hearted leaders have impact without exhaustion. She is a Master Certified Integral Coach™ as well as a meditative yoga instructor. Her contemplative sensibilities and integral approach inform her coaching work with leaders all over North America and the United Kingdom.

She has written two books, Weird Church: Welcome to the 21st Century and Discernment: Spiritual Practices for Building a Life of Faith. You can find out more about her at bethestock.com.

Paul Nixon

Paul Nixon is Director of Church Multiplication for Discipleship Ministries, an agency of The United Methodist Church. He has served as a Director of Church Development for an annual conference, served as a church planter, and coached scores of innovative leaders across the last quarter century. Paul is the president of Epicenter Group, a coaching organization currently focused on ministry in North America and the United Kingdom. Paul has written eleven books – including a joyful collaboration with Beth Estock in 2016 as they released Weird Church: Welcome to the 21st Century. His most recent book is Launching a New Worship Community: A Field Guide for the 2020s, co-authored with Craig Gilbert and twelve ministry innovators. You can find out more about him at epicentergroup.org.